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    <description>On Wisdom features a social and cognitive scientist in Toronto and an educator in London discussing the latest empirical science regarding the nature of wisdom. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom &amp; Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo in Canada. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London, UK. The podcast thrives on a diet of freewheeling conversation on wisdom, decision-making, wellbeing, and society and includes regular guests spots with leading behavioral scientists from the field of wisdom research and beyond. Welcome to The On Wisdom Podcast.
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    <itunes:summary>On Wisdom features a social and cognitive scientist in Toronto and an educator in London discussing the latest empirical science regarding the nature of wisdom. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom &amp; Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo in Canada. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London, UK. The podcast thrives on a diet of freewheeling conversation on wisdom, decision-making, wellbeing, and society and includes regular guests spots with leading behavioral scientists from the field of wisdom research and beyond. Welcome to The On Wisdom Podcast.
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  <title>67: The Wisdom Turing Test - Part Two (with Steve Rathje)</title>
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  <itunes:episode>67</itunes:episode>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What can insights from the psychology of technology teach us about wisdom in the age of AI? In this special follow-up episode, Igor and Charles are joined by Steve Rathje to explore how classic ideas like the Turing Test hold up now that AI can talk compellingly about human wisdom. Steve unpacks what today’s generative models are actually capable of, Igor is intrigued by how quickly the line between human and machine reasoning seems to be blurring, and Charles realises that telling human insight from machine insight isn’t nearly as straightforward as he'd hoped. The trio also reveal the results of our listener poll — who sounded the wisest, and was the audience able to spot the AI? Welcome to Episode 67.</itunes:subtitle>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What can insights from the psychology of technology teach us about wisdom in the age of AI? In this special follow-up episode, Igor and Charles are joined by Steve Rathje to explore how classic ideas like the Turing Test hold up now that AI can talk compellingly about human wisdom. Steve unpacks what today’s generative models are actually capable of, Igor is intrigued by how quickly the line between human and machine reasoning seems to be blurring, and Charles realises that telling human insight from machine insight isn’t nearly as straightforward as he&#39;d hoped. The trio also reveal the results of our listener poll — who sounded the wisest, and was the audience able to spot the AI? Welcome to Episode 67.</p><p>Special Guest: Steve Rathje.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Steve Rathje&#39;s Site: " rel="nofollow" href="https://stevenrathje.com/">Steve Rathje's Site: </a></li><li><a title="Sycophantic AI increases attitude extremity and overconfidence (Preprint) - Steve Rathje, Meryl Ye, Laura K. Globig, Raunak M. Pillai, Victoria Oldemburgo de Mello, Jay J Van Bavel (2025)" rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/vmyek">Sycophantic AI increases attitude extremity and overconfidence (Preprint) - Steve Rathje, Meryl Ye, Laura K. Globig, Raunak M. Pillai, Victoria Oldemburgo de Mello, Jay J Van Bavel (2025)</a></li><li><a title="Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition - Johnson, Karimi, Bengio, Chater, Gerstenberg, Larson, Levine, Mitchell, Rahwan, Schölkopf, Grossmann (2024)" rel="nofollow" href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.02478">Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition - Johnson, Karimi, Bengio, Chater, Gerstenberg, Larson, Levine, Mitchell, Rahwan, Schölkopf, Grossmann (2024)</a></li><li><a title="The Turing test: Can a computer pass for a human? | TedEd Video - Alex Gendler " rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/3wLqsRLvV-c?si=MKb7UvaO79hurYvW">The Turing test: Can a computer pass for a human? | TedEd Video - Alex Gendler </a></li><li><a title="The Chinese Room Experiment | The Hunt for AI | BBC Studios" rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/D0MD4sRHj1M?si=h_Fq9-W6a86NbdI8">The Chinese Room Experiment | The Hunt for AI | BBC Studios</a></li><li><a title="The Chinese Room Argument | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy" rel="nofollow" href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/">The Chinese Room Argument | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy</a></li><li><a title="Her | Movie Trailer (2013)" rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/dJTU48_yghs?si=QUO-pjnXrd-ibg8a">Her | Movie Trailer (2013)</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What can insights from the psychology of technology teach us about wisdom in the age of AI? In this special follow-up episode, Igor and Charles are joined by Steve Rathje to explore how classic ideas like the Turing Test hold up now that AI can talk compellingly about human wisdom. Steve unpacks what today’s generative models are actually capable of, Igor is intrigued by how quickly the line between human and machine reasoning seems to be blurring, and Charles realises that telling human insight from machine insight isn’t nearly as straightforward as he&#39;d hoped. The trio also reveal the results of our listener poll — who sounded the wisest, and was the audience able to spot the AI? Welcome to Episode 67.</p><p>Special Guest: Steve Rathje.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Steve Rathje&#39;s Site: " rel="nofollow" href="https://stevenrathje.com/">Steve Rathje's Site: </a></li><li><a title="Sycophantic AI increases attitude extremity and overconfidence (Preprint) - Steve Rathje, Meryl Ye, Laura K. Globig, Raunak M. Pillai, Victoria Oldemburgo de Mello, Jay J Van Bavel (2025)" rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/vmyek">Sycophantic AI increases attitude extremity and overconfidence (Preprint) - Steve Rathje, Meryl Ye, Laura K. Globig, Raunak M. Pillai, Victoria Oldemburgo de Mello, Jay J Van Bavel (2025)</a></li><li><a title="Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition - Johnson, Karimi, Bengio, Chater, Gerstenberg, Larson, Levine, Mitchell, Rahwan, Schölkopf, Grossmann (2024)" rel="nofollow" href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.02478">Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition - Johnson, Karimi, Bengio, Chater, Gerstenberg, Larson, Levine, Mitchell, Rahwan, Schölkopf, Grossmann (2024)</a></li><li><a title="The Turing test: Can a computer pass for a human? | TedEd Video - Alex Gendler " rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/3wLqsRLvV-c?si=MKb7UvaO79hurYvW">The Turing test: Can a computer pass for a human? | TedEd Video - Alex Gendler </a></li><li><a title="The Chinese Room Experiment | The Hunt for AI | BBC Studios" rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/D0MD4sRHj1M?si=h_Fq9-W6a86NbdI8">The Chinese Room Experiment | The Hunt for AI | BBC Studios</a></li><li><a title="The Chinese Room Argument | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy" rel="nofollow" href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/">The Chinese Room Argument | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy</a></li><li><a title="Her | Movie Trailer (2013)" rel="nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/dJTU48_yghs?si=QUO-pjnXrd-ibg8a">Her | Movie Trailer (2013)</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>66: The Wisdom Turing Test - Part One</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>The Wisdom Turing Test - Part One</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What happens when we ask our own fantastic listeners — and AI — what it means to live wisely? In this episode, Igor and Charles hand the mic to members of the On Wisdom audience to hear their answers to the big questions usually reserved for scientists and philosophers. But there’s a twist: one set of responses was provided by AI. We invite you to vote on who gave the wisest answers — and to guess which one wasn’t human. Igor is surprised by just how insightful the answers from the regular folk (compared to experts) turn out to be, while Charles wonders if the wisest one may not be human at all? Can you pass the Wisdom Turing Test? Welcome to Episode 66.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>40:42</itunes:duration>
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  <description>What happens when we ask our own fantastic listeners — and AI — what it means to live wisely? In this episode, Igor and Charles hand the mic to members of the On Wisdom audience to hear their answers to the big questions usually reserved for scientists and philosophers. But there’s a twist: one set of responses was provided by AI. We invite you to vote on who gave the wisest answers — and to guess which one wasn’t human. Igor is surprised by just how insightful the answers from the regular folk (compared to experts) turn out to be, while Charles wonders if the wisest one may not be human at all? Can you pass the Wisdom Turing Test? Welcome to Episode 66.
Link to Listener Poll here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePLVkKDHKButOmx7ApJ2hR0bvwsOFdgpHDI_R6RDBZNovH8Q/viewform?usp=dialog)
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    <![CDATA[<p>What happens when we ask our own fantastic listeners — and AI — what it means to live wisely? In this episode, Igor and Charles hand the mic to members of the On Wisdom audience to hear their answers to the big questions usually reserved for scientists and philosophers. But there’s a twist: one set of responses was provided by AI. We invite you to vote on who gave the wisest answers — and to guess which one wasn’t human. Igor is surprised by just how insightful the answers from the regular folk (compared to experts) turn out to be, while Charles wonders if the wisest one may not be human at all? Can you pass the Wisdom Turing Test? Welcome to Episode 66.</p>

<p>Link to Listener Poll <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePLVkKDHKButOmx7ApJ2hR0bvwsOFdgpHDI_R6RDBZNovH8Q/viewform?usp=dialog" rel="nofollow">here</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Listener Poll | On Wisdom Podcast: The Wisdom Turing Test (Episode 66) " rel="nofollow" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePLVkKDHKButOmx7ApJ2hR0bvwsOFdgpHDI_R6RDBZNovH8Q/viewform?usp=dialog">Listener Poll | On Wisdom Podcast: The Wisdom Turing Test (Episode 66) </a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What happens when we ask our own fantastic listeners — and AI — what it means to live wisely? In this episode, Igor and Charles hand the mic to members of the On Wisdom audience to hear their answers to the big questions usually reserved for scientists and philosophers. But there’s a twist: one set of responses was provided by AI. We invite you to vote on who gave the wisest answers — and to guess which one wasn’t human. Igor is surprised by just how insightful the answers from the regular folk (compared to experts) turn out to be, while Charles wonders if the wisest one may not be human at all? Can you pass the Wisdom Turing Test? Welcome to Episode 66.</p>

<p>Link to Listener Poll <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePLVkKDHKButOmx7ApJ2hR0bvwsOFdgpHDI_R6RDBZNovH8Q/viewform?usp=dialog" rel="nofollow">here</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Listener Poll | On Wisdom Podcast: The Wisdom Turing Test (Episode 66) " rel="nofollow" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePLVkKDHKButOmx7ApJ2hR0bvwsOFdgpHDI_R6RDBZNovH8Q/viewform?usp=dialog">Listener Poll | On Wisdom Podcast: The Wisdom Turing Test (Episode 66) </a></li></ul>]]>
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